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Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:28 pm
by Chadwick
kevinchess1 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:20 pm
What country, in it’s right mind, would want to leave the worlds biggest trading block and risk it all without a deal?
What country, whilst trying to keep together a collection of union of political opposites would risk that union when a lot of its people are opposed to going it alone?
I mean what country leaders are prepared to take a wild, risky leap into the unknown for the vague promises of a better future free from outside influences?

United States of America 1776

Were they crazy?
Sounds crazy. The various member states of a continent choosing to band together under a federal government to work as one entity. No thanks!

More likely that one single state would reject the idea and break away and make a massive success of paying more than its neighbours to buy and sell the same stuff.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:22 pm
by Boro Boy
Forget the fact that the way the United States is structured is totally different to the EU and look at the areas of important news which the UK press seems to have totally forgotten about: https://www.france24.com/en/20190907-fi ... 2463152530

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:45 pm
by Boro Boy
" ...a survey published by The Share Centre shows more than twice the numbers of Remainers switching to leave than Leavers switching to remain." https://www.share.com/stock-markets-and ... o-years-on

This all makes interesting reading: https://www.shareradio.co.uk/thinkingal ... 43F66BDE4A

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:51 am
by AAAlphaThunder
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:45 pm
" ...a survey published by The Share Centre shows more than twice the numbers of Remainers switching to leave than Leavers switching to remain." https://www.share.com/stock-markets-and ... o-years-on

This all makes interesting reading: https://www.shareradio.co.uk/thinkingal ... 43F66BDE4A
Interesting.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:09 am
by pabenny
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:45 pm
" ...a survey published by The Share Centre...
a) that was from mid-2018 when Mrs May was still PM, the original leave date was still 9 months away and no deal was not considered remotely likely
b) You also omitted to note that the sample covered only 'personal investors' - a term not defined but since the article is about direct purchasers of equities, it probably means a small minority of the population.

The other link in that post is also from June 2018. I think we can all agree that there has been considerable change since then.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:15 am
by pabenny
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:22 pm
... areas of important news which the UK press seems to have totally forgotten about: https://www.france24.com/en/20190907-fi ... 2463152530
The article is about the gilets jaunes protesters in France. As it sets out, protests continue, but with declining levels of support. Has the UK press forgotten it? It's essentially a domestic French matter and we tend to have little concern for domestic politics of other countries.

Not sure what point you are trying to make by raising this.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:08 am
by AAAlphaThunder
pabenny wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:09 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:45 pm
" ...a survey published by The Share Centre...
a) that was from mid-2018 when Mrs May was still PM, the original leave date was still 9 months away and no deal was not considered remotely likely
b) You also omitted to note that the sample covered only 'personal investors' - a term not defined but since the article is about direct purchasers of equities, it probably means a small minority of the population.

The other link in that post is also from June 2018. I think we can all agree that there has been considerable change since then.
Indeed. That which they thought was impossible has come to pass.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:38 am
by Sarah
If you want a much better indication of trends in how "the people" are feeling try a poll aggregator, such as this one that shows the results of 128 polls right up to September 2019:
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/i ... ve-the-eu/

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:42 am
by pabenny
Thank you Sarah.

The clear and sustained preference for 'wrong to vote leave' over the last year shows why the Leavers are so against a second referendum.

Re: Brexit Bounces too

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:05 am
by Sarah
There are nevertheless still a lot of polls that show most respondents are too locked into the same mindset to change their voting intention, regardless of everything else.

Here's another interesting chart, which only runs up to May 2019, but shows very clearly how dramatically the referendum polarised many "don't know" views:
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/i ... ou-vote-2/