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I tend to agree with you here but apparently the law is interpreted differently by the "powers that be"...blythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 7:59amA similar story I remember is an elderly lady whose son put barbed wire on top of her wall due to a burglary. She was forced to remove it due to the risk to anyone illegally climbing over the wall.
IMHO if you break into a van and get an electric shock that is your just desserts. Same as injuring yourself climbing a wall with the intent to steal.
No law abiding person would ever be injured so what was the problem?
Barbed wire or spikes topping fences and walls is commonplace. If the story is true, there must have been some other factor requiring removalblythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 7:59amA similar story I remember is an elderly lady whose son put barbed wire on top of her wall due to a burglary. She was forced to remove it due to the risk to anyone illegally climbing over the wall.
Because two wrongs don't make a right. The state reserves for itself the power to punishment offenders.blythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 7:59amNo law abiding person would ever be injured so what was the problem?
True but most criminal acts go unpunished. The man has been robbed in the past and putting tools in the van and removing them every day is not something he should be forced to do. I am on his side this time, the law is not at fault but sometimes the jobsworth interpret it too strongly.pabenny wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 9:47amBarbed wire or spikes topping fences and walls is commonplace. If the story is true, there must have been some other factor requiring removalblythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 7:59amA similar story I remember is an elderly lady whose son put barbed wire on top of her wall due to a burglary. She was forced to remove it due to the risk to anyone illegally climbing over the wall.
Because two wrongs don't make a right. The state reserves for itself the power to punishment offenders.blythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 7:59amNo law abiding person would ever be injured so what was the problem?
So what if a would-be thief is killed or injured by this 1000v? I don't think there is any justification in law for devices to protect property that can deliver lethal force. This is very clearly different from self-defence.blythburgh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 10:52am… The man has been robbed in the past and putting tools in the van and removing them every day is not something he should be forced to do...
.. sometimes the jobsworth interpret it too strongly...
Correct. But he didn't obviously rig it to kill merely to give a nasty shockexpressman33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19 2019 2:06pmyet the police are allowed to use Tasers which are over 25,000 volts , but I believe it is not the voltage that hurts/kills you it is the current in Amperes
https://taserguide.com/how-many-volts-a ... 20anything.
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