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Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Chadwick » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:12 pm

Derbiean wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:29 am

Our beloved Prime Minister uses the murder of a Labour MP to score cheap points and no one bats an eyelid.

Bias much?
To remedy Derbiean's comment, this is a thread to comment on whether Boris Johnson went too far in parliament yesterday.


My opinion is that yes, he raised the stakes unacceptably by continuing to use antagonistic and aggressive language, even when warned of the impact. When told he was being quoted in death threats, he replied that it was 'humbug'.

He has no respect for democracy or our parliament. He tried to suspend parliament to get it out of the way whilst he pushed through his unwelcome version of brexit. He tells MPs that they are lying about the death threats they receive, even when they have just reminded him that an MP was killed for this.

He should resign.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Richard Frost » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:22 pm

Of course he should. He is not going to but he should. I doubt he will even apologise. It is not his style.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by pabenny » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:40 pm

Mr Johnson is working from the Trump playbook - even though his supporters may find his style makes them uncomfortable, they want to 'win' - and if whipping up hostility and division enables them to win, they will excuse the rest of his behaviour.

I'm not convinced it will be as effective here - too many on Boris's own side dislike the man and his policies and most of those on the left that support Brexit would never support a Tory.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:12 pm

Short answer, too far - yes.

Long answer, too far - yes.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by sanity clause » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:28 pm

Boris has broken the law.

His buddy Donald is facing a formal impeachment inquiry for violating the US Constitution.

They don't care about democracy. They manipulate everything to their own agenda, which is power and money.

I've no idea what the penalties are, but it'd be nice to think that they'd spend a long time in each others pockets, in a prison cell somewhere as nasty as they are.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Boro Boy » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:44 pm

sanity clause wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Boris has broken the law.

They don't care about democracy.
What law has been broken?

They seem to uphold democracy more than their opposition so I don't understand why you are trying to push the twist the truth agenda…??? :wtf:

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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Richard Frost » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:51 pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:44 pm
sanity clause wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Boris has broken the law.

They don't care about democracy.
What law has been broken?

They seem to uphold democracy more than their opposition so I don't understand why you are trying to push the twist the truth agenda…???
Not often I can say this but Boro Boy is right. Boris broke no law and it was not a criminal trial. Precedent has been set though now and if it happens in the future. This case will be taken into account as guidance .
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Derbiean » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:54 pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:44 pm
sanity clause wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Boris has broken the law.

They don't care about democracy.
What law has been broken?

They seem to uphold democracy more than their opposition so I don't understand why you are trying to push the twist the truth agenda…??? :wtf:
No law is broken but I imagine many don't know the difference between illegal and unlawful. As for Johnson saying that the best way to honour Jo Cox's memory was to get brexit done it's actually an insult considering she was in the remain camp.
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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by Boro Boy » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:34 pm

Derbiean wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:54 pm
Boro Boy wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:44 pm
sanity clause wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Boris has broken the law.

They don't care about democracy.
What law has been broken?

They seem to uphold democracy more than their opposition so I don't understand why you are trying to push the twist the truth agenda…??? :wtf:
No law is broken but I imagine many don't know the difference between illegal and unlawful. As for Johnson saying that the best way to honour Jo Cox's memory was to get brexit done it's actually an insult considering she was in the remain camp.
Add the phase "...and for the sake of national unity..." and you may be a little bit nearer to what was actually said but it doesn't mean your "quote" is out of context...

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Re: Boris - too much bluster?

Post by pabenny » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:41 am

Boro Boy wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:44 pm
They seem to uphold democracy more than their opposition so I don't understand why you are trying to push the twist the truth agenda…??? :wtf:
Before we get all high and mighty about an elected Parliament seeking to obstruct a more-or-less unelected PM, think back 6 months. Who was it who voted down Mrs May's withdrawal agreement? Three times.
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