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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 12:32am
by Boro Boy
macliam wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:28am
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:21am
Original Thought: Don't be foolish enough to accept into our bossom those who what to destroy our way of life. "Simples!"
Try that in English? :roll:

Correction: Original Thought: Don't be foolish enough to accept into our bosom those who want to destroy our way of life. "V. Simples!" ;)

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 9:17am
by pabenny
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:32am
Don't be foolish enough to accept into our bosom those who want to destroy our way of life.
Is that what IS want to achieve in the UK?

They may have wanted to establish a caliphate in the Middle East based on their warped interpretation of Islam. But over here they seem more like a deadly version of the Judean People's Front and fellow travellers, who were going to capture Pilate's wife and make demands. Only they were far from clear what those demands might be.

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 9:24am
by Boro Boy
pabenny wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 9:17am
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:32am
Don't be foolish enough to accept into our bosom those who want to destroy our way of life.
Is that what IS want to achieve in the UK?

They may have wanted to establish a caliphate in the Middle East based on their warped interpretation of Islam. But over here they seem more like a deadly version of the Judean People's Front and fellow travellers, who were going to capture Pilate's wife and make demands. Only they were far from clear what those demands might be.
You said it all for me at "...warped interpretation of Islam." Why would we want these people (sic) back at all...!?! :think:

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 9:46am
by macliam
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 9:24am
pabenny wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 9:17am
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:32am
Don't be foolish enough to accept into our bosom those who want to destroy our way of life.
Is that what IS want to achieve in the UK?

They may have wanted to establish a caliphate in the Middle East based on their warped interpretation of Islam. But over here they seem more like a deadly version of the Judean People's Front and fellow travellers, who were going to capture Pilate's wife and make demands. Only they were far from clear what those demands might be.
You said it all for me at "...warped interpretation of Islam." Why would we want these people (sic) back at all...!?! :think:
It's not for you to "want", they have a right as British citizens and the horse has already bolted - the only "simples" is you. Closing your eyes to the problem won't make it go away. Unfortunately, there are enough like you to make Mr "future PM" Javid think that pandering to short-sighted populism will gain him advantage.

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 11:52am
by pabenny
So, a question for those don't want Shamima Begum back here: Should we also strip Darren Osborne of his British citizenship? He's the person who deliberately drove a van at a peaceful group of Muslims, killing one and injuring eight. Ms Begum has associated herself with some undesirable people, but as far as we know has not killed or injured others.

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 12:19pm
by Richard Frost
It would appear according to the news today that two other IS brides have had their citizenship removed. Where does this end? Do we just leave them in the Desert to rot, or do we acknowledge that there is a problem here and accept that we as a nation contributed to this sorry state of affairs in the first place and acknowledge that we have a duty of care morally to repatriate these people, put on trial where appropriate and rehabilitate the people that successive governments have let down by allowing them to become brainwashed in the first place.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47512659

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 1:01pm
by Derbiean
pabenny wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 11:52am
So, a question for those don't want Shamima Begum back here: Should we also strip Darren Osborne of his British citizenship? He's the person who deliberately drove a van at a peaceful group of Muslims, killing one and injuring eight. Ms Begum has associated herself with some undesirable people, but as far as we know has not killed or injured others.
Yes, he's a terrorist or bring back the death penalty.

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 2:51pm
by pabenny
Mr Osborne is now longer a British citizen and doesn't have the right to remain in the UK. Where should he be deported to? And why should that country accept him?

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 4:45pm
by kevinchess1
William Joseph1 wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 12:19pm
It would appear according to the news today that two other IS brides have had their citizenship removed. Where does this end?
Whats that old adage about if you're in a hole, stop digging.
Someone needs to take, The Rt Hon Sajid Javid MP, spade away

Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Posted: Sun Mar 10 2019 10:50pm
by Derbiean
pabenny wrote:
Sun Mar 10 2019 2:51pm
Mr Osborne is now longer a British citizen and doesn't have the right to remain in the UK. Where should he be deported to? And why should that country accept him?
USA he'd be in good company :problem: or as I said bring back the death penalty.