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Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:50 pm
by Boro Boy
Constantine wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Derbiean wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:25 pm
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In Soviet Russia Chernobyl watches you :mrgreen:
Russia hasn't been Soviet since 1991. And Chernobyl doesn't watch anything, It's buried underneath a huge containment structure. Oh yes, and Chernobyl isn't in Russia, it's in the Ukraine.

Sorry about that. :)
Did Ukraine your neck out to pass that comment...? ;)

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:55 pm
by AAAlphaThunder
Constantine wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Derbiean wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:25 pm
...

In Soviet Russia Chernobyl watches you :mrgreen:
Russia hasn't been Soviet since 1991. And Chernobyl doesn't watch anything, It's buried underneath a huge containment structure. Oh yes, and Chernobyl isn't in Russia, it's in the Ukraine.

Sorry about that. :)
After the (legal?) annexation of Crimea and the chaos that followed I read in the FT, no less, that some people are moving back to the outskirts of Chernobyl just to escape the madness of war. They argue it is a safer place to be.

Stranger things have come to pass.

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:56 pm
by Constantine
I'm not that surprised. Chernobyl is now a tourist destination. You can book tours. People go there to look at the ruins and the wildlife. Apparently the bears and suchlike have thrived due to the absence of humans.

I think the Earth can endure anything we throw at it.

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:12 pm
by Chadwick
Derbiean wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Anyone watch the hbo mini series Chernoybl? Boro boy is exactly like Anatoly Dyatlov "this man is delusional, get him out of here".
If you're a fan of Friday Night Dinner, you'll be expecting him to say something different.

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:14 am
by Boro Boy
Chadwick wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:12 pm
Derbiean wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Anyone watch the hbo mini series Chernoybl? Boro boy is exactly like Anatoly Dyatlov "this man is delusional, get him out of here".
If you're a fan of Friday Night Dinner, you'll be expecting him to say something different.
Everyone has forgotten Mr Big; I must be showing my age...

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 am
by blythburgh
Constantine wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:56 pm
I'm not that surprised. Chernobyl is now a tourist destination. You can book tours. People go there to look at the ruins and the wildlife. Apparently the bears and suchlike have thrived due to the absence of humans.

I think the Earth can endure anything we throw at it.
Of course Earth will survive. But will humans and much of the wildlife become like the dinosaurs? The way we are going the answer is "yes"

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:45 pm
by expressman33

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:08 pm
by William Joseph1
expressman33 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:45 pm
interesting article here https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-30- ... hGj92fS5OA
Why do people bother reading such tripe? Have they got nothing better to do with their time?

About the Author: https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2016 ... -huff.html

Friday, December 16, 2016
#1762: Ethan Huff
Ethan Huff is a staff writer at NaturalNews, and as such responsible for a fair proportion of the wild-eyed conspiracy theories and insane pseudoscience peddled there. Huff is perhaps most notable for his anti-vaccine articles, e.g. this one on gardasil, which is based on some of Sharyl Attkisson’s rants, but adds some extra conspiracy theories, viz. that when certain people he thought were going to support the anti-vaccine cause turned out not to, it must be because either i) Big Pharma got to them, or ii) they are mentally ill; yes, that’s how things go down in the epistemic abyss that is NaturalNews. As for his article “H1N1 vaccine linked to 700 percent increase in miscarriages,” well, it was based on the “research” by Eileen Dannemann – indeed, his only source is Dannemann; although several sources are listed, they are all based exhaustively on her. We have encountered Dannemann before. We have encountered other examples of misusing the VAERS database before, too, but Dannemann’s idiocy still manages to impress (she got some anecdotes, too, as well as her own press release – which she cited in her own “research”).

Huff has also weighed in on the scientific process. In particular, after a debate at the British Royal Society, where Richard Smith, former editor of the British Medical Journal (now The BMJ), took the role of attacking the current processes of research dissemination and hyperbolically called the peer review process a “sacred cow” ready to “slaughtered” Huff took it the only way someone in his cognitive situation could, and the result was the article “‘Sacred cow’ of industry science cult should be slaughtered for the good of humanity, BMJ editor says.” Of course, people like Huff really don’t like peer review, which is a process inherently biased against pseudoscientific, unsupported nonsense dreamed up by people with little understanding of the field they are trying to engage with. Apart from that, I don’t think Huff’s article needs much comment.

It seems to illustrate a common strategy of Huff’s, though: Pick up some anecdotes, quackery, or anti-science covered somewhere else and, if necessary, add some conspiracy theories before covering it on NaturalNews – here is (a commentary on) Huff reporting a very, very dubious breast cancer testimonial reported in The Sun - dubious, in that the person in question, though praising altmed quackery for her recovery, was in fact cured – to the extent she was – by conventional medicine. Or just go for the tinfoil-hat-level conspiracies: In a preemptive review of the movie Contagion, based on the trailer, Huff penned “Hollywood begins mass brainwashing campaign to get people ready for the next bioengineered virus release.” No seriously: “The entertainment industry is no stranger to government propaganda campaigns, and the latest Hollywood flicks are no exception. A quick look at the trailer for the upcoming release of the movie Contagion reveals what appears to be a massive brainwashing campaign designed to prepare the American psyche for the next [!] intentional release of a bioengineered virus – and it also conveniently and subtly programs viewers into accepting the idea that vaccines might be the solution to a major, devastating disease outbreak.” And you have no idea how deep the conspiracy goes: You may not have noticed, but Huff has, that the themes of major movie releases over the past several decades are predictive of what ends up taking place not too long afterwards, which clearly shows “that Hollywood is deeply connected to the agendas of those that are now in control of various world governments, including the US government.” For instance, the movie Armageddon clearly predicted 9/11 since it mentioned the possibility of an asteroid hitting New York, and that proves that the government masterminded 9/11 and that Hollywood is in on it. Reflect on that, sheeple!

Meanwhile, Huff is doing his best to protect you from the big bad wolves in the name of “health freedom”. Huff has for instance promoted, and urged his readers to tell Congress to support, a bill entitled the “Free Speech About Science” (FSAS) Act of 2011, which curbs the FDA’s powers to hold supplement manufacturers accountable for the health benefits of the snakeoil they make – basically that such companies’s right to “free speech” means that they shouldn’t be forced to back up their claims with evidence (“the bill will amend current law to allow growers and manufacturers to freely share honest information about food and supplements with their customers,” according to Huff). Clearly, stopping poor supplement manufacturers from falsely advertising their products is an abuse of the health freedom of average Americans. (Defense of supplement manufacturers is a recurring theme of Huff’s).

You get the gist. Here Huff and J.D. Heyes creates a couple of year-end lists for Natural News: their 2015 Journalist Courage Awards and their 2015 Celebrity Hall of Shame Awards. Guess where the science-based stuff ended up.

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:15 pm
by kevinchess1
Boro Boy wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:50 pm
Constantine wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Derbiean wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:25 pm
...

In Soviet Russia Chernobyl watches you :mrgreen:
Russia hasn't been Soviet since 1991. And Chernobyl doesn't watch anything, It's buried underneath a huge containment structure. Oh yes, and Chernobyl isn't in Russia, it's in the Ukraine.

Sorry about that. :)
Did Ukraine your neck out to pass that comment...? ;)
Q. Why can’t you wear loose fitting underwear in the Ukraine?

A. Chernobyl fallout!

Re: A Green Initiative gone completely wrong...!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:26 pm
by Constantine
blythburgh wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:02 am
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Of course Earth will survive. But will humans and much of the wildlife become like the dinosaurs? The way we are going the answer is "yes"
Well that would be the whole point.

It's not about protecting the Earth from us, it's about protecting ourselves from the Earth.