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Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Tue Sep 24 2019 5:32pm
by cccashbacklover
richard@imutual wrote:
Mon Sep 23 2019 9:19am

What's also clear from the past is that our "product" isn't right; that is, the site is very poor at converting visitors to active users and we need to address that first before committing precious resources to social media campaigns or trying to form promotional partnerships. Fix the hole in the bucket rather than just trying to pour in more water
You seemingly knew years ago what most of us are saying now, being as you are an entrepreneur what ideas have you got so that your investment/website offers the "right product"

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Tue Sep 24 2019 5:47pm
by pabenny
richard@imutual wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 2:48pm
Why are you here, then?
I do indeed ask myself that.

I still feel a loyalty after many years here and at rpoints. And I enjoy (some of) the debate with other posters. But I also ask myself whether I should desert a sinking ship or try to save it.

Two years ago, I started a thread saying that IM was slowly dying. The rebuttal was that it has plateaued not that is IM dying. Since then TCB and Q have continued to grow while new sign ups here have dwindled and active members continue to drift away.

Mr Boro Boy has been vigorous in suggesting improvements needed and activity to generate more interest - and others have added their contributions. But these many suggestions have led to little visible change. Yes, I know resources are limited, yes, I know that some of the site infrastructure needs fixing, etc, etc. But the excuses are wearing thin, while IM becomes even more irrelevant.

Perhaps others disagree that the ship is sinking. If so, then let them make their case.

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Tue Sep 24 2019 6:45pm
by BeautifulSunshine
richard@imutual wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 2:48pm
Why are you here, then?
For the lovely Ladies.

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 12:08am
by Boro Boy
pabenny wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 5:47pm
richard@imutual wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 2:48pm
Why are you here, then?
I do indeed ask myself that.

I still feel a loyalty after many years here and at rpoints. And I enjoy (some of) the debate with other posters. But I also ask myself whether I should desert a sinking ship or try to save it.

Two years ago, I started a thread saying that IM was slowly dying. The rebuttal was that it has plateaued not that is IM dying. Since then TCB and Q have continued to grow while new sign ups here have dwindled and active members continue to drift away.

Mr Boro Boy has been vigorous in suggesting improvements needed and activity to generate more interest - and others have added their contributions. But these many suggestions have led to little visible change. Yes, I know resources are limited, yes, I know that some of the site infrastructure needs fixing, etc, etc. But the excuses are wearing thin, while IM becomes even more irrelevant.

Perhaps others disagree that the ship is sinking. If so, then let them make their case.
I guess thats an answer worth a follow up. It would be interesting to see if Richard has an answer but I can see the comments do show (as with some other members comments) a genuine concern for the future of iMutual...

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 7:18am
by BeautifulSunshine
Boro Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 25 2019 12:08am
pabenny wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 5:47pm
richard@imutual wrote:
Tue Sep 24 2019 2:48pm
Why are you here, then?
I do indeed ask myself that.

I still feel a loyalty after many years here and at rpoints. And I enjoy (some of) the debate with other posters. But I also ask myself whether I should desert a sinking ship or try to save it.

Two years ago, I started a thread saying that IM was slowly dying. The rebuttal was that it has plateaued not that is IM dying. Since then TCB and Q have continued to grow while new sign ups here have dwindled and active members continue to drift away.

Mr Boro Boy has been vigorous in suggesting improvements needed and activity to generate more interest - and others have added their contributions. But these many suggestions have led to little visible change. Yes, I know resources are limited, yes, I know that some of the site infrastructure needs fixing, etc, etc. But the excuses are wearing thin, while IM becomes even more irrelevant.

Perhaps others disagree that the ship is sinking. If so, then let them make their case.
I guess thats an answer worth a follow up. It would be interesting to see if Richard has an answer but I can see the comments do show (as with some other members comments) a genuine concern for the future of iMutual...
Choice. The problem is choice.

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 11:00am
by blythburgh
Why do I stay?

1) I am still earning money from the dailies, just a lot less than I was. And know dailies come and go and more come to replace the lost ones sooner or later

2) Richard has been prepared to work for peanuts compared to what he can earn if working full time elsewhere. He has shown commitment so I want to support that commitment

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 11:25am
by Richard Frost
I do not think imutual is the best site in the world. I am very aware that Richard has a lot of capital tied up in the business. The shares to me are worthless and no more than a gimmick. Do they help make me feel part of a community? No of course not. Before a bright spark comes along and says give them to him/her. Why should I give them to some selfish person who wants them. If in the remotest event they are worth something before I pass on, it will be up to me what I do with them be it a cruise or to giving to Age Concern and is no business of anyone else.

Dailies as was said previously come and go and I am sure that an eye is open for other opportunities.

Could imutual be better, yes of course it could be. But being realistic there is only so much that three people can do compared to the massive amount of staff at TCB and Quidco.

Am I happy with imutual, no i'm not completely. But it is a steady income. There are other sites that I earn less from. Its the overall total that matters to me. I think if there were problems looming then Richard would say. I am happy to continue. I will use imutual like I use every other site, If it is offering a good rate (unusual) I will take advantage if there are better rates elsewhere then I will go there.

As I do not regard it as my business, I am happy for Richard to manage his business as he sees fit.

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 3:51pm
by Boro Boy
Richard and members will have noted that we are progressing (slowly) towards the 10 Millionth Transaction! What better chance for Richard to stimulate a marketing campaign with such a milestone which could be shared with the financial press, radio, and perhaps TV...!?! Indeed, a chance to see Richard interviewed on TV will certainly raise our profile and if published along-side our membership joining page address, may see a growth of members.

The rise in profile may make partnership deals easier...

Planning for this event now should give plenty of time to make the above a reality and it is an opportunity only too easy to miss/waste.

Richard, what do you think?

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 3:57pm
by pabenny
Boro Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 25 2019 3:51pm
... members will have noted that we are progressing (slowly) towards the 10 Millionth Transaction!
Actually, not really. Total transactions shows on the homepage if not logged in. I don't see anywhere else I can see that number.

Re: Come on Richard...

Posted: Wed Sep 25 2019 4:24pm
by Boro Boy
pabenny wrote:
Wed Sep 25 2019 3:57pm
Boro Boy wrote:
Wed Sep 25 2019 3:51pm
... members will have noted that we are progressing (slowly) towards the 10 Millionth Transaction!
Actually, not really. Total transactions shows on the homepage if not logged in. I don't see anywhere else I can see that number.
...easy enough to find out but for the one's who find this too difficult or are just pedantic - "9,556,641 cashback transactions to date" is stated on the home page prior to logging in. :wave:

Progress is at approximately new transactions 2,500 per day...