Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by Boro Boy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:51 am

What with resignations of Ministers... Now it seems UK MP's are blatantly ignoring the votes of their constituents...

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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by blythburgh » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:24 am

Boro Boy wrote:What with resignations of Ministers... Now it seems UK MP's are blatantly ignoring the votes of their constituents...

Are they or are they doing what they were elected to do. Represent all their constituents and take hard decisions that their constiuents would not necessarily agree with.

And remember the referendum vote was only won by 4%. Just needed 2% plus one and the remain side would have won. Those most likely to vote leave were over retired and some of those are dead. Those most likely to vote remain were under retirement age and those aged 16 and 17 who were denied the vote would be able to vote if there was a 2nd vote. Plus add the fact that some people have realised they were lied to on the infamous bus about the money for the NHS and would not vote leave if there was a rerun. Then again we might not have (alleged) Russion meddling in the run up to the vote.

Stop whining, Boro Boy, you still seem to winning at the cost of jobs here but as far too many of the retired say, that does not matter as long we stop foreigners coming here to work.
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by Boro Boy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:35 am

"And remember the referendum vote was only won by 4%". Remind me how many voters was that...!?!

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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by RonFlorabud » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:55 pm

Boro Boy wrote:"And remember the referendum vote was only won by 4%". Remind me how many voters was that...!?!
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by Chadwick » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:25 pm

Boro Boy wrote:"And remember the referendum vote was only won by 4%". Remind me how many voters was that...!?!
You really want to pick that fight?

OK...

Total valid votes = 33,551,983
50% of above +1 vote = 16,775,993 = this number of votes wins

Actual votes for Remain = 16,141,241
Number of additional votes necessary for Remain win = 16,775,993-16,141241 = 634,752
% of additional votes necessary for Remain win = 1.89% of valid votes

In words, rather than maths, if just 634,752 people had voted Remain instead of Leave, you would be accepting the democratic decision to stay in the EU and we wouldn't hear a peep out of you, because you would be getting over it and backing the will of the people.

Anyone crowing about a 'decisive' victory or the 'clear will of the people' is ignoring the facts :roll:. Leave won by less than 2% and less that 635,000 votes. That is an exceedingly slim margin.
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by Constantine » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 pm

Chadwick wrote:...
You really want to pick that fight?

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What fight?

This thread is about the 'Euro Experiment'. The UK is not in the Euro. Leave or remain makes no difference to that.
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by expressman33 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:22 pm

Chadwick wrote:
Total valid votes = 33,551,983
50% of above +1 vote = 16,775,993 = this number of votes wins
Come on Chadwick , get your maths right
Total valid votes = 33,551,983 ( an odd number)
16,775,992 votes wins ;) ;)
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by Chadwick » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:11 pm

expressman33 wrote:
Chadwick wrote:
Total valid votes = 33,551,983
50% of above +1 vote = 16,775,993 = this number of votes wins
Come on Chadwick , get your maths right
Total valid votes = 33,551,983 ( an odd number)
16,775,992 votes wins ;) ;)
I rounded up the half.
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by blythburgh » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:30 am

Boro Boy wrote:What with resignations of Ministers... Now it seems UK MP's are blatantly ignoring the votes of their constituents...
A man climbing the greasy poll resigns and knows he will probably never get a never chance of being a senior minister. He gives up that chance and a not inconsiderable amount of money because he fears the Govt. negotiations will be bad for the country as a whole and especially bad for his constituents.

A man of honour to be applauded not condemn. And I would applaud him even if he was resigning on a matter I totally disagreed with him.
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Re: Is the Euro experiment about to collapse...?

Post by blythburgh » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:34 am

Chadwick wrote:
Boro Boy wrote:"And remember the referendum vote was only won by 4%". Remind me how many voters was that...!?!
You really want to pick that fight?

OK...

Total valid votes = 33,551,983
50% of above +1 vote = 16,775,993 = this number of votes wins

Actual votes for Remain = 16,141,241
Number of additional votes necessary for Remain win = 16,775,993-16,141241 = 634,752
% of additional votes necessary for Remain win = 1.89% of valid votes

In words, rather than maths, if just 634,752 people had voted Remain instead of Leave, you would be accepting the democratic decision to stay in the EU and we wouldn't hear a peep out of you, because you would be getting over it and backing the will of the people.

Anyone crowing about a 'decisive' victory or the 'clear will of the people' is ignoring the facts :roll:. Leave won by less than 2% and less that 635,000 votes. That is an exceedingly slim margin.
And given the death of some leave voters and the amount of people who were denied a vote because they were in the 16 to 18 age group (precedence for them getting a vote in the Scottish Referendum) who would overwhellmingly vote remain and if those who have lived abroad for over 15 years had been given the vote (a promise the Tories gave them years ago to boost their vote in General Elections) then if the vote was today Remain would win by a small percentage. And you can add those who only voted leave because of the LIE about the NHS on the Leave Bus.
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