MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:44 am

Very succinct, either we pay more for the same benefits or pay the same for less benefits.

We have NI, I fail to see why we need a NI Mark II or new tax that only targets the 40+ and all the admin costs to manage it...!

It will prove very unpopular with 39/40+ year olds who probably think they are taxed enough... A vote looser!
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by pabenny » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:51 am

There's the conundrum that all governments face: we want better services, higher benefits - but don't want to pay.
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:02 am

pabenny wrote:There's the conundrum that all governments face: we want better services, higher benefits - but don't want to pay.

No I will pay the going rate - but why should I pay more that a 39 year old who more than likely has the same life challenges ahead as me?

We already have a system called NI why create new taxes - not required in this format! :problem:
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by William Joseph1 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:18 am

Until such time as the government adopts this green paper as policy (or not) and it is made into a white paper. What you are attempting to discuss is hypothetical at the best and and at worse a load of hot air and scaremongering. The truth is no one at the moment is in a position to discuss the governments position which will be outlined in the autumn.
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by blythburgh » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:23 am

Constantine wrote:
blythburgh wrote:One of the saddest things about the pension age rise is that many women were totally unaware of the new ages to get their pensions.
Or more accurately, a small number of women ignored the avalanche of publicity regarding the change and later moaned about it.
I think there was some publilcity at the time which not everyone noticed and some of those that did forgot and so a lot of women and couples based their futures on a 60 not 66 pension age.

Not saying it should not have happened but wish there had been a regular reminder. The media could have helped there.
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:02 am

William Joseph1 wrote:Until such time as the government adopts this green paper as policy (or not) and it is made into a white paper. What you are attempting to discuss is hypothetical at the best and and at worse a load of hot air and scaremongering. The truth is no one at the moment is in a position to discuss the governments position which will be outlined in the autumn.

The mere fact it has been made public is a "testing the water" approach and if it doesn't raise a storm they would no doubt try and adopt it as policy... :eh:
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Dream on » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:05 am

Boro Boy wrote:
William Joseph1 wrote:Until such time as the government adopts this green paper as policy (or not) and it is made into a white paper. What you are attempting to discuss is hypothetical at the best and and at worse a load of hot air and scaremongering. The truth is no one at the moment is in a position to discuss the governments position which will be outlined in the autumn.
The mere fact it has been made public is a "testing the water" approach and if it doesn't raise a storm they would no doubt try and adopt it as policy... :eh:
Rubbish, the paper has been produced by two cross party select committees of parliament. Nothing to do with the government and the maybot will decide and go her own way as per normal.
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:10 am

Dream on wrote:
Boro Boy wrote:
William Joseph1 wrote:Until such time as the government adopts this green paper as policy (or not) and it is made into a white paper. What you are attempting to discuss is hypothetical at the best and and at worse a load of hot air and scaremongering. The truth is no one at the moment is in a position to discuss the governments position which will be outlined in the autumn.
The mere fact it has been made public is a "testing the water" approach and if it doesn't raise a storm they would no doubt try and adopt it as policy... :eh:
Rubbish, the paper has been produced by two cross party select committees of parliament. Nothing to do with the government and the maybot will decide and go her own way as per normal.
It was a recomendation prompted no doubt by our health minister...

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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by William Joseph1 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:15 am

It was prompted by two select committees of the houses of Parliament

The House of Commons Health and Social Care and Housing, Communities and Local Government Committees and nothing to do with the Health Minister, who is not on either committee. if you think otherwise then you need to bone up on how Parliament works.
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Re: MPs call for social care tax for over 40s

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:33 am

William Joseph1 wrote:It was prompted by two select committees of the houses of Parliament

The House of Commons Health and Social Care and Housing, Communities and Local Government Committees and nothing to do with the Health Minister. if you think otherwise then you need to bone up on how Parliament works.

Get Real - the real truth is the Government wouldn't waste all this civil service time unless they wanted to bring in new legislation...
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