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At best, too early to call, at worst self delusion and semantics....... there is no vaccine or treatment, the number of fatalities amongst the affected population is high and the total penetration within the general population is unknown. What's not to love when the deckchairs get reorganized?Sarah wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28 2020 6:28pmIf a small positive of the current situation brings any comfort, last week on 19 March 2020 the government actually downgraded COVID-19 so that it's no longer classified a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID) in the UK. This of course takes nothing away from how awful it is, yet nevertheless indicates they no longer believe it's as consequential as their initial assessment and perhaps reminds us there are entire categories of worse diseases (all being rare in the UK):
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-conseq ... f-covid-19
In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:
acute infectious disease
typically has a high case-fatality rate
may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely
I thought he could have been replaced by a robot on the TV ads. The mouth moves but the face remains motionless
Alarmist headline from the Guardian. When you read the article and take into account the fact that the majority of people included in the survey were over 70 and had other major risk factors to take into account.expressman33 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29 2020 12:06pmCoronavirus patients in UK intensive care have 50% survival rate
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... vival-rate
Data from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre (ICNARC) showed that of 165 patients treated in critical care in England, Wales and Northern Ireland since the end of February, 79 died, while 86 survived and were discharged. The figures were taken from an audit of 775 people who have been or are in critical care with the disease, across 285 intensive care units. The remaining 610 patients continue to receive intensive care.
The high death rate raises questions about how effective critical care will be in saving the lives of people struck down by the disease. As a top priority, the NHS is opening field hospitals in London, Birmingham and Manchester, which will incorporate some of the biggest critical care units ever seen in Britain.
“The truth is that quite a lot of these individuals [in critical care] are going to die anyway and there is a fear that we are just ventilating them for the sake of it, for the sake of doing something for them, even though it won’t be effective. That’s a worry,” one doctor said.
The report also found that though the majority of those who have died from coronavirus across the UK were over 70, nine of the 79 who died in intensive care were aged between 16 and 49, as were 28 of the 86 who survived.
The audit suggested that men are at much higher risk from the virus – seven in ten of all ICU patients were male, while 30% of men in critical care were under 60, compared to just 15% of women. Excess weight also appears to be a significant risk factor; over 70% of patients were overweight, obese or clinically obese on the body mass index scale.
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