If we want to fish in EU waters, we will have to seek agreement from the EU.Boro Boy wrote:Chadwick wrote:
If all we're trying to do is give ourselves a bigger share of the fishing quota, would it not be easier to negotiate this from inside the EU, rather than outside?
why would we need to negotiate when it will shortly all be under our control anyway...?
If the EU wants to fish in our waters, they will have to seek agreement with us.
If we 'take back control' of our 200m EEZ, presumably we will be making changes to who can take what out of the sea. (I assume from your comments that you believe the UK is currently disadvantaged, and by leaving the EU we can rectify that). IF these changes mean non-UK boats are not allowed to take as much as they currently do, then there will be a corresponding curtailment of our rights to fish elsewhere in Europe. We can either shout at the EU from a distance, or engage in negotiation with them.
You seem to think that we can simply pull up the drawbridge and do whatever the hell we want with no consequences. The world doesn't work like that any more. Nations - especially in Europe - are co-dependent and cooperative. We've moved on from 'Us vs Them' to 'Us and Them'. Sure, there are still disagreements, because we're not all one big super state, and EU countries are still sovereign states governed by their own laws. But these disagreements come about because we are connected in so many ways, especially economically.
Brexit was sold on the promise that we could cut these ties and sail off into a glorious sunset. We've spent two years* working out how to leave the EU, and ended up deciding that the best bet is to try and stay in it as much as we can. Some people still don't understand why we can't 'just leave now' (the answer is because it would be catastrophic - planes really would be grounded etc etc). All they really want to do is stop those damn furriners coming over here with their funny food and talking funny and simultaneously stealing our jobs and living off benefits (despite evidence that they contribute more in taxes than they cost).
Your question "why would we need to negotiate when it's under our control" is symptomatic of this blinkered outlook. Think back to your earliest memories of nursery. Do you ever recall being told to share the toys? Ever wondered why?
* UKIP, the ERG, and the various Leave campaigns had been arguing for leaving for much longer, but incredibly hadn't bothered to work out any plan or concept of how to leave or what we would do instead. They literally had one job...