Brexit Bounces

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Brexit Bounces

Post by kevinchess1 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:32 pm

With the latest deal defeated where next?
I suspect they will announce a delay followed by a general election and then, who knows?
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by William Joseph1 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:45 pm

No surprises at all in the vote tonight.

Where next?
Tomorrow a vote on deal or no deal. Deal will win
Thursday a vote on whether to ask for an extension. They will ask, The EU will grant it

The real question is for how long and where from there. The maybot will need to go before a new referendum is allowed. She is not going to change her red lines which is the only way to negotiate a new deal.

As I see it the only way forward is for her to get chucked out and someone else takes over to either, negotiate a new deal, or
Call referendum.

Or possibly a General Election, but I think that is doubtful. Most likely if she is chucked a brexiter will be elected as leader and we will start all over again.

But the real truth is it's anyone call and anything could happen.
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by macliam » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:38 pm

Problem with an extension is that the EU have their own fish to fry....
How long?
How much will the UK need to contribute?
There are elections coming up - so, will the UK be in the farcical position of having to elect new MEPs?What other strings?

...... and to $50,000 question - what for?
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by kevinchess1 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:08 pm

Brexit makes me nostalgic for the days when all we had to worry about was a nuclear holocaust.
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by kevinchess1 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:39 pm

I reckon the threat of extending the deadline will worry The Brexiters enough that they will get behind May’s deal
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by expressman33 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:58 pm

The country voted for Brexit but most MPs ( including Theresa May ) didn't want Brexit.
Is this the way Theresa May will eventually stop Brexit ?
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by macliam » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:35 pm

kevinchess1 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:39 pm
I reckon the threat of extending the deadline will worry The Brexiters enough that they will get behind May’s deal
Not enough...... the deal is deader than a dead thing that died a long time ago. However, other options are still available, once May's red lines are scrubbed out.

A sad politician called May
Could not get the votes on the day.
With a croaky old voice
She still stuck with her choice
And insisted there's no other way!
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by pabenny » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:55 am

William Joseph1 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:45 pm
Or possibly a General Election, but I think that is doubtful.
I'm not sure that a General Election will solve anything.

- The Tories won't be able to agree on a manifesto position on Brexit.
- Labour might just agree a fudge position based on negotiating a "better" deal. Or not, since the majority of MPs and members are remainers. And anyway, they're unelectable with Corbyn as leader.

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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by blythburgh » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:39 am

expressman33 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:58 pm
The country voted for Brexit but most MPs ( including Theresa May ) didn't want Brexit.
Is this the way Theresa May will eventually stop Brexit ?
No it did not. A very small majority and the 16/17 year olds that got a vote in the Scottish independence vote because it affected them were denied a vote. The ex pats who do not have a vote in our general elections have long been promised by the Tories (to boost their vote and no other reason) were denied a vote but this is the one time a vote would actually affect them.

The country certainly did not vote for Brexit. Less than 50% of the actual people on the electoral roll voted for it. A very small majority of the voters opted to leave not the whole country
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Re: Brexit Bounces

Post by blythburgh » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:43 am

William Joseph1 wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:45 pm
No surprises at all in the vote tonight.

Where next?
Tomorrow a vote on deal or no deal. Deal will win
Thursday a vote on whether to ask for an extension. They will ask, The EU will grant it

The real question is for how long and where from there. The maybot will need to go before a new referendum is allowed. She is not going to change her red lines which is the only way to negotiate a new deal.

As I see it the only way forward is for her to get chucked out and someone else takes over to either, negotiate a new deal, or
Call referendum.

Or possibly a General Election, but I think that is doubtful. Most likely if she is chucked a brexiter will be elected as leader and we will start all over again.

But the real truth is it's anyone call and anything could happen.
We all vote for a party in a General Election that will give us more of what we actually want than any other party. A General Election should be about the NHS< taxes, austerity, housing, education, the environment, jobs etc. And that is how people will vote. Brexit will not be a factor for most voters so what is the point especially when the two main parties are so split on Brexit?
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