"Bringing Energy Home"

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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm

I used to have a meter with zero standing charge. They used to charge more for each unit of electricity but as it was an odd thing I bought it worked out better for me.

I don't know if this type of tariff is still available.
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by William Joseph1 » Mon May 20, 2019 7:07 pm

AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm
I used to have a meter with zero standing charge. They used to charge more for each unit of electricity but as it was an odd thing I bought it worked out better for me.

I don't know if this type of tariff is still available.
Read the previous posts the info is there.
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by Boro Boy » Mon May 20, 2019 7:11 pm

William Joseph1 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:46 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:09 pm
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm
There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity.
How old are you?

The standing charge has only been introduced in recent years possibly (at a maximum guess) within the last ten years at least (I can't comment on SE EDF historic charging history). Some suppliers stuck out for a while after the major utility providers brought it in but I beleive all suppliers use this charging structure now following various Government pricing reviews.
Your original point was as above and in the conversation was twisted by you to read,
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Fri May 17, 2019 8:36 am
I wouldn't normally reply to this but I will persist in saying there was a point in the recent past where you could have a meter connection to a utility company and still have no charges if there was no usage ie. No Standing Charge!
This is the everlasting story from you, you change your facts halfway through a debate and then deny you said what you said in the first place.
Where is the facts change exactly? :wtf:

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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by cccashbacklover » Mon May 20, 2019 7:17 pm

AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm
I used to have a meter with zero standing charge. They used to charge more for each unit of electricity but as it was an odd thing I bought it worked out better for me.

I don't know if this type of tariff is still available.
https://ebico.org.uk/energy-plans/
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by Boro Boy » Mon May 20, 2019 11:27 pm

cccashbacklover wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 7:17 pm
AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm
I used to have a meter with zero standing charge. They used to charge more for each unit of electricity but as it was an odd thing I bought it worked out better for me.

I don't know if this type of tariff is still available.
https://ebico.org.uk/energy-plans/
Bingo! So not only were tariffs with zero rate standing charges available in the past but you have highlighted that they are available presently - you are not going to be WJ1's favourite...! :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by cccashbacklover » Tue May 21, 2019 7:46 am

https://www.eversmartenergy.co.uk/asset ... ariffs.pdf "Goodbye Standing Charge" :clap:


https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/11/ho ... rgy-bills/


viewtopic.php?f=22&t=86996&sid=84f56e22 ... bd#p236053 - Those who thanked the post :lol: :lol: :lol:

"There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity."


Factually incorrect, until the big 6 energy companies decided to scrap no standing charge tariffs, I used/paid nothing for Gas for years up until 2014, in addition I was a dual fuel serial switcher for cashback always switching back and forth to no standing charge tariffs.
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by Boro Boy » Tue May 21, 2019 9:18 am

cccashbacklover wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 7:46 am
https://www.eversmartenergy.co.uk/asset ... ariffs.pdf "Goodbye Standing Charge" :clap:


https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/11/ho ... rgy-bills/


viewtopic.php?f=22&t=86996&sid=84f56e22 ... bd#p236053 - Those who thanked the post :lol: :lol: :lol:

"There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity."


Factually incorrect, until the big 6 energy companies decided to scrap no standing charge tariffs, I used/paid nothing for Gas for years up until 2014, in addition I was a dual fuel serial switcher for cashback always switching back and forth to no standing charge tariffs.
Great research CashBackLover and thank you for proving the point on the past/present existence of zero charges on standing charges - WJ1 is likely to really fall out with you now...! :wave:

I beleive you shouldn't have to be disconnected (and then have to pay to be reconnected) to get nil charges from a utility company if you don't use any of their supply for a period of time...

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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by expressman33 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:34 am

Boro Boy wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:27 pm
cccashbacklover wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 7:17 pm
AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm
I used to have a meter with zero standing charge. They used to charge more for each unit of electricity but as it was an odd thing I bought it worked out better for me.

I don't know if this type of tariff is still available.
https://ebico.org.uk/energy-plans/
Bingo! So not only were tariffs with zero rate standing charges available in the past but you have highlighted that they are available presently - you are not going to be WJ1's favourite...! :wave: :wave: :wave:
WJ has never denied this
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Some suppliers do make tariffs available without a standing charge but it would probably only make sense to enter a contract with one of those tariffs if you were a small user. This might be suitable for some developers.
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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by Boro Boy » Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 am

expressman33 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:34 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Bingo! So not only were tariffs with zero rate standing charges available in the past but you have highlighted that they are available presently - you are not going to be WJ1's favourite...! :wave: :wave: :wave:
WJ has never denied this
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Some suppliers do make tariffs available without a standing charge but it would probably only make sense to enter a contract with one of those tariffs if you were a small user. This might be suitable for some developers.
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm
There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity. It starts from the day that a supplier contract is entered into and when they fit a Meter. Always has been the case.


???? a case of twisting the facts ...? Yes it seems so!

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Re: "Bringing Energy Home"

Post by William Joseph1 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:53 am

Boro Boy wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 am
expressman33 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 9:34 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:27 pm


Bingo! So not only were tariffs with zero rate standing charges available in the past but you have highlighted that they are available presently - you are not going to be WJ1's favourite...! :wave: :wave: :wave:
WJ has never denied this
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Some suppliers do make tariffs available without a standing charge but it would probably only make sense to enter a contract with one of those tariffs if you were a small user. This might be suitable for some developers.
William Joseph1 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 4:51 pm
There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity. It starts from the day that a supplier contract is entered into and when they fit a Meter. Always has been the case.
???? a case of twisting the facts ...? Yes it seems so!
Both statements are perfectly true and I stand by them.

There has always been a standing charge for Gas, Water and Electricity. It starts from the day that a supplier contract is entered into and when they fit a Meter. Always has been the case. Some suppliers do make tariffs available without a standing charge but it would probably only make sense to enter a contract with one of those tariffs if you were a small user. This might be suitable for some developers.

As both statements are perfectly correct and this thread was not started with the intention of debating standing charges for utilities. I will be making no further comment on that issue. except to say this is what was said by you and was a mistake on your part
Boro Boy wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:09 pm
How old are you?

The standing charge has only been introduced in recent years possibly (at a maximum guess) within the last ten years at least (I can't comment on SE EDF historic charging history). Some suppliers stuck out for a while after the major utility providers brought it in but I beleive all suppliers use this charging structure now following various Government pricing reviews.
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