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Unfortunately I am inclined to agree.kevinchess1 wrote: ↑Sat May 18 2019 10:24pmCant see Leadsom getting V far
She pulled out last time late on
Can't see McVey getting it either.
Don't think the Tories will vote for another woman Gove is a good bet
If Boris get to the final 2 i think he will win by a mile
I suspect the Tory members would rather have BJ or anyone rather than JC as PM
As always just my opinion
blythburgh wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:43amMichael Heseltine is a man of principle and made a very difficult decision. He could have chosen to remain silent but felt the almost certain axe of his Tory Party membership was worth it so to encourage others to make a more secret choice at the ballot box.
I have never had more respect for him.
What makes you think he did not expect to have the whip removed? I am far from surprised personally.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Mon May 20 2019 11:56pmWas Michael Heseltine so up his own posterior that he thought he could stab his own party in the back and still remain untouchable...!?! https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/t ... spartanntp
It was not a National Election it is a European Election and largely seen as farcical and pointless anyway.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:49amblythburgh wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:43amMichael Heseltine is a man of principle and made a very difficult decision. He could have chosen to remain silent but felt the almost certain axe of his Tory Party membership was worth it so to encourage others to make a more secret choice at the ballot box.
I have never had more respect for him.
If he had of been honourable perhaps he should have left the Tory Party before deciding to make it known he would be voting against them in a National Election. Winston Churchill (someone I regard as an honourable man) left the Tory Party when he disagreed with the direction of the party in a General Election.
Play on words... its National to the UK as opposed to local...William Joseph1 wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 10:07amIt was not a National Election it is a European Election and largely seen as farcical and pointless anyway.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:49amblythburgh wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:43amMichael Heseltine is a man of principle and made a very difficult decision. He could have chosen to remain silent but felt the almost certain axe of his Tory Party membership was worth it so to encourage others to make a more secret choice at the ballot box.
I have never had more respect for him.
If he had of been honourable perhaps he should have left the Tory Party before deciding to make it known he would be voting against them in a National Election. Winston Churchill (someone I regard as an honourable man) left the Tory Party when he disagreed with the direction of the party in a General Election.
Your entitled to your opinion. Personally I see the language as inflammatory and unnecessary. Those who see it as a second referendum are probably in the group who are saying they do not want a confirmatory referendum. So why in their minds they would want to try and replicate one I do not understand. But everyone's mind works differently. One of the beauties of life.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 10:09amPlay on words... its National to the UK as opposed to local...William Joseph1 wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 10:07amIt was not a National Election it is a European Election and largely seen as farcical and pointless anyway.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 21 2019 9:49amIf he had of been honourable perhaps he should have left the Tory Party before deciding to make it known he would be voting against them in a National Election. Winston Churchill (someone I regard as an honourable man) left the Tory Party when he disagreed with the direction of the party in a General Election.
Farcical yes! but seen as a second referendum by many! Either way the stab in the back Heseltine won't be voting Tory and will be reminded about it for evermore...
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