I think that about all of your brexit posts
The fact remains though that Brexit party would pick up far fewer percentage of votes in a general election as 1) The turn out would be far bigger and 2) most people are not obsessed by the EU and would base their vote on things that were more important to them. Health, the economy, education etc. All areas where Farage and his one trick pony bunch of rich head banger misfits don't have a single policy.Boro Boy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 9:01 amGood point! I guess that's just a way of twisting the results to fit the remain requirements...! Remember; Lies, damned lies, and statistics....fattulip74 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:37 amI very much doubt that the Brexit party would get any more than 1 or 2 MP' s in a general election they would significantly change the winners of a lot of seats by taking bites off the big 2.
What i don't understand is all this adding Green/SNP/LinDen vote together to say remain won. Did London win the Premier League as West Ham, Spurs and Chelsea got more points combined than Man City?
One interesting point is that this EU vote was on a PR basis and the Brexit Party would have also have won most seats if it had been run on a first past the post basis. So don't listen to the statistics just deal with the reality and all will be ok.
Thats the question and I for one don't know. Fence sitting for me i suppose.I personally want to remain as it's far better economically for the country but am of the belief that we have to honour the result of the last referendum but make it as painless as possible. As I say I want 2 completely different things at the same time, and I believe only JC for Labour is trying to see both sides of the argument, both hard remain and hard leave are the ones tearing the country apart.pabenny wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 9:49 amRather more fundamentally than trying to say "who won?" the question is where do we go from here?
The only things that Parliament has agreed are the things they don't want, namely No Deal and Theresa's Deal. At present, nothing else is on offer.
Numerous people are saying that they way forward is for everyone else to agree with them (across a whole spectrum from No Deal to Remain via a second vote). But I don't see anyone with a credible solution that can carry widespread parliamentary and popular support.
Anyone any realistic suggestions?
Arguably, JC has no choice but to sit on the fence given his own public supporter base is split down the middle in both hard leave (North/Midlands) and hard remain (London) terms. It's why he wants that General Election as it means he doesn't have to choose a side and can argue at that election that he will negotiate a deal that satisfies both sides of the argument - something TM tried to do although he would probably keep far more of a link with the EU than she was proposing. However, he's still taking a chance with that position as the Brexit Party will take votes from Labour in certain locations and maybe the Libdems in other places.fattulip74 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:02 am
Thats the question and I for one don't know. Fence sitting for me i suppose.I personally want to remain as it's far better economically for the country but am of the belief that we have to honour the result of the last referendum but make it as painless as possible. As I say I want 2 completely different things at the same time, and I believe only JC for Labour is trying to see both sides of the argument, both hard remain and hard leave are the ones tearing the country apart.
For all the alleged lack of democracy of the EU, I note it is reported that the Brexit party has no democratic structures whatsoever.
If you want to view it that way, then yes, you could decide the 'best football city' in that way. But that's probably best discussed in the Sports forum, not here.
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