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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by Constantine » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:53 pm

pabenny wrote:
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The government has been comparatively generous to pensioners, rich or poor, in recent years - most notably the 'triple lock' on state pension (now quietly withdrawn, I think)....
No, the 'triple lock' is still in place.
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:57 pm

Constantine wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:53 pm
pabenny wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:52 am
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The government has been comparatively generous to pensioners, rich or poor, in recent years - most notably the 'triple lock' on state pension (now quietly withdrawn, I think)....
No, the 'triple lock' is still in place.
How long before it is deemed to be "in need of austerity"?
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by Constantine » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:58 pm

blythburgh wrote:
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pabenny wrote:
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It's "Summertime Blues".
Our age is showing :lol:
Summertime Blues was 1958. I wasn't even born then. I'm more Anarchy in the UK (1977). :)
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by William Joseph1 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:01 pm

Constantine wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:58 pm
blythburgh wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:36 pm
pabenny wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:57 am
It's "Summertime Blues".
Our age is showing :lol:
Summertime Blues was 1958. I wasn't even born then. I'm more Anarchy in the UK (1977). :)
I was 4 in 1958
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by Constantine » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:05 pm

AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:57 pm

How long before it is deemed to be "in need of austerity"?
Try 'Intergenerational Fairness'.

https://www.ipe.com/countries/uk/peers- ... ullarticle
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:18 am

Constantine wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:05 pm
AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:57 pm

How long before it is deemed to be "in need of austerity"?
Try 'Intergenerational Fairness'.

https://www.ipe.com/countries/uk/peers- ... ullarticle
Hmmm, interesting. I shall have a read.
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by blythburgh » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:09 am

I agree that some pensioners are far better off than many younger people. But of course there are still far too many pensioners who qualify for pension credit but do not get it because they do not know about it, find the form too confusing or do not want to get "charity" as they see it.

So stopping stuff for pensioners like the triple lock or free TV licences for the 75+ is a double edge sword.

When the TV licence came in the 75+ were most all on basic state pensions but that figure is less these days. And to make matters worse the Govt. got the Beeb to take it on and that will hit the BBC income in the near future.

If you remove the free licence the Beeb does not lose a big chunk of its income. But some pensioners who are not on pension credit who could be the ones who keep it have to choose between, food, heating and the TV licence.

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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by pabenny » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:56 am

Most recent data about pension credit take up (2016/17) is that 60% of eligible people receive it. The claim is by phone (although paper forms are available).

Pension credit is for the poorest old people and ending the triple lock won't make a difference to them; meanwhile it is the better off pensioners who have benefitted from it.

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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by expressman33 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:58 am

William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:01 pm
Constantine wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:58 pm
blythburgh wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:36 pm
Our age is showing :lol:
Summertime Blues was 1958. I wasn't even born then. I'm more Anarchy in the UK (1977). :)
I was 4 in 1958
best year ever - I was born in that year :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
apart from I've got to wait an extra year to get my state pension :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

as WJ was born in 1954 he'll be in the transitional period changing from 65 to 66
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Re: the most heartbreaking news item I have seen for a long time

Post by William Joseph1 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:16 am

expressman33 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:58 am
William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:01 pm
Constantine wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:58 pm
Summertime Blues was 1958. I wasn't even born then. I'm more Anarchy in the UK (1977). :)
I was 4 in 1958
best year ever - I was born in that year :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
apart from I've got to wait an extra year to get my state pension :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
You and every other male born in 1954. Some had it worse and have to wait longer.
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