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stay or quit politically

Post by blythburgh » Tue Jul 30 2019 11:09am

Alistair Campbell has announced he no longer wants to be a member or the Labour Party. MP's have left the Tory and Labour Parties.

I am in the "stay and fight for the party you joined to return". On one hand I am happy we have one more LibDem MP in Chuka Umunna. But on the other I wish he was still in the Labour Party, fighting the hard left who have taken it over, standing alongside all the moderate/soft left members and voters.

Our two main parties have been taken over by extremists and I find it sad that not everyone who is not in that faction is not prepared to stay and fight.
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by BeautifulSunshine » Tue Jul 30 2019 3:58pm

A lost cause. Time to move on to greener fields.
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by kevinchess1 » Tue Jul 30 2019 7:24pm

It's a sad day for the Labour party when an asset like Alistair Campbell says he can't bring himself to support it.

Because you never know when you might need someine who can totally invent reasons to murder a million people out of thin air.

Jeremy doesn't want you either Al

Perhaps UKIP will have him?
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by Boro Boy » Tue Jul 30 2019 9:27pm

kevinchess1 wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 7:24pm
It's a sad day for the Labour party when an asset like Alistair Campbell says he can't bring himself to support it.

Because you never know when you might need someine who can totally invent reasons to murder a million people out of thin air.

Jeremy doesn't want you either Al

Perhaps UKIP will have him?
He could be more suited for the LibDems as they don't accept a democratic decision of the people...
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by blythburgh » Wed Jul 31 2019 11:40am

Compared to Machiavelli Alistair Campbbell was a small child learning the dark arts

Compared to Johnson's advisor Dominic Cummings Machiavelli is a babe in arms who has merely heard of the dark arts

Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by blythburgh » Wed Jul 31 2019 11:45am

Boro Boy wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 9:27pm
kevinchess1 wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 7:24pm
It's a sad day for the Labour party when an asset like Alistair Campbell says he can't bring himself to support it.

Because you never know when you might need someine who can totally invent reasons to murder a million people out of thin air.

Jeremy doesn't want you either Al

Perhaps UKIP will have him?
He could be more suited for the LibDems as they don't accept a democratic decision of the people...
LIE, we want a People's vote so now we know what it means we can make a proper decision to stay or leave. But if we got one no doubt Dominic Cummings will think up even more lies like the bus one. I know people changed from remain to leave on the strength of the bus lie.
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by Chadwick » Wed Jul 31 2019 1:58pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 9:27pm
He could be more suited for the LibDems as they don't accept a democratic decision of the people...
They're saying the result was in some way fraudulent or incorrect?

I thought they were saying that having spent 3 years trying and failing to achieve the result of the referendum, they'd like another vote to see if the will of the people has changed.

They're two different things.
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by pabenny » Wed Jul 31 2019 2:17pm

Chadwick wrote:
Wed Jul 31 2019 1:58pm
...another vote to see if the will of the people has changed...
As happens regularly with governments, councillors, party leaders.

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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by kevinchess1 » Wed Jul 31 2019 2:59pm

Chadwick wrote:
Wed Jul 31 2019 1:58pm
Boro Boy wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 9:27pm
He could be more suited for the LibDems as they don't accept a democratic decision of the people...
They're saying the result was in some way fraudulent or incorrect?

I thought they were saying that having spent 3 years trying and failing to achieve the result of the referendum, they'd like another vote to see if the will of the people has changed.

They're two different things.
You can make that argument and it has merit until Joey adds ‘and if the vote is too Leave we won’t accept it
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Re: stay or quit politically

Post by kevinchess1 » Wed Jul 31 2019 3:15pm

Chadwick wrote:
Wed Jul 31 2019 1:58pm
Boro Boy wrote:
Tue Jul 30 2019 9:27pm
He could be more suited for the LibDems as they don't accept a democratic decision of the people...
They're saying the result was in some way fraudulent or incorrect?

I thought they were saying that having spent 3 years trying and failing to achieve the result of the referendum, they'd like another vote to see if the will of the people has changed.
Well your argument would have more merit if the Lib Dem’s hadn’t voted against every attempt to get Brexit though
It’s the same as you refusing to put your bins out and then complaining that the council haven’t emptied them
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