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Post by William Joseph1 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:20 pm

As Richard has locked the previous thread I have opened this one in order people may continue to discuss Brexit if they feel the need.

With just 39 days to go it does not despite the mutterings of our esteemed leader Boris feel as though the country is any nearer to reaching an amicable deal with the EU27.
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Re: Brexit

Post by Chadwick » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:44 pm

William Joseph1 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:20 pm
With just 39 days to go it does not despite the mutterings of our esteemed leader Boris feel as though the country is any nearer to reaching an amicable deal with the EU27.
Yes, incredibly, after 3 years, we seem to be no further forward. And it's the same issues that are causing problems.
Firstly, if we want to control our borders, how do we do that in Ireland?
Secondly, if we leave the EU, what relationship do we want instead?

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Re: Brexit

Post by pabenny » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:59 pm

Many Leavers seem to think that withdrawal from the EU on 31 October is the End. In reality it is the end of the beginning. Our government then has to negotiate the new relationships with the EU, negotiate new relationships with other nations, establishing new frameworks - such as farm subsidies. Whatever those things look like, many will be as divisive as the debates over the last three years.

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Re: Brexit

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:11 pm

pabenny wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:59 pm
Many Leavers seem to think that withdrawal from the EU on 31 October is the End. In reality it is the end of the beginning. Our government then has to negotiate the new relationships with the EU, negotiate new relationships with other nations, establishing new frameworks - such as farm subsidies. Whatever those things look like, many will be as divisive as the debates over the last three years.
No doubt the UK will feel the full force of the EU. David v Goliath except the year is 2019 and Goliath is going to hammer us.
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Re: Brexit

Post by Chadwick » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:22 pm

pabenny wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:59 pm
Many Leavers seem to think that withdrawal from the EU on 31 October is the End. In reality it is the end of the beginning. Our government then has to negotiate the new relationships with the EU, negotiate new relationships with other nations, establishing new frameworks - such as farm subsidies. Whatever those things look like, many will be as divisive as the debates over the last three years.
And the government of the day will have to implement speedy, ill-thought out, solutions, in the face of hastily organised, ill-thought out opposition. Because we have not yet done any of the thinking that would avoid that scenario.

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Re: Brexit

Post by Chadwick » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:31 pm

Wondering how Brexit will benefit you, and how to take advantage of the new opportunities that will arise?
Here's the Government's handy guide. Just tap in a few details and it will tell you how to prepare for Brexit.

This is an example of a UK citizen, working in the UK and intending to travel abroad at some point in the future, possibly hiring a car or taking their own:

https://www.gov.uk/get-ready-brexit-che ... onality-uk

Curiously, the government's advice is just extra things I need to do to make sure I can still do something that is straightforward now. Nothing that makes life better or easier.

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Re: Brexit

Post by pabenny » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:34 am

Chadwick wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:31 pm
Wondering how Brexit will benefit you, and how to take advantage of the new opportunities that will arise?
.... just extra things I need to do to make sure I can still do something that is straightforward now. Nothing that makes life better or easier.
Ah, but we will have Taken Back Control.

Curiously, the Leavers seem to have forgotten all their great reasons for leaving and their sole justification is Respect the Result.
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Re: Brexit

Post by Sarah » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:57 am

The story so far...
(Warning: Contains strong language!)
https://twitter.com/Collabblues/status/ ... 73955?s=20
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Re: Brexit

Post by blythburgh » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:03 am

I agree we need to debate the B word.

IMHO the best biscuits are Border's Dark Chocolate Gingers but I am sure others willl disagree with me. Biscuits can be such an emotive issue
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Re: Brexit

Post by Chadwick » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:37 pm

pabenny wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:34 am
Curiously, the Leavers seem to have forgotten all their great reasons for leaving and their sole justification is Respect the Result.
We've gone from the easiest deal in history and sunlit uplands to damage mitigation.

But people still want it, on the grounds that it's not as crap as Project Fear said it would be, and that this time everyone might be wrong (including the actual government doing it).
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