London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by blythburgh » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:34 am

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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by pabenny » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 am

pabenny wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:45 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:05 am
... Result for me is to deal with things we can change and lets just clean up the earth ...
So let's share some tips. What are you doing to clean up the earth?
Or some policies you would support. How about banning the most polluting vehicles from city centres? Or setting minimum recycling standards for local authorities, such as requiring separate collection of food waste? Maybe stop Heathrow expansion to tackle pollution and noise?
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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:57 am

pabenny wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:37 am
pabenny wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:45 am
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:05 am
... Result for me is to deal with things we can change and lets just clean up the earth ...
So let's share some tips. What are you doing to clean up the earth?
Or some policies you would support. How about banning the most polluting vehicles from city centres? Or setting minimum recycling standards for local authorities, such as requiring separate collection of food waste? Maybe stop Heathrow expansion to tackle pollution and noise?
What about carrot policy rather than imposing a stick policy...?

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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by pabenny » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:04 pm

Such as?
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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by Boro Boy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:30 pm

pabenny wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:04 pm
Such as?
Open to sensible suggestions...

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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by pabenny » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:37 pm

So you have no suggestions of your own for policies that you would support to combat pollution.
And you seem to be opposed to anything that is 'stick-like' - ie imposing charges or restrictions on those who pollute.
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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by Derbiean » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:59 pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:41 pm
Derbiean wrote:
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The tories and British Trump are the real problems when it comes to tackling climate issues

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ate-action

" Conservative MPs are almost five times as likely to vote against climate action than legislators from other parties, a Guardian analysis of 16 indicative parliamentary divisions over the past decade has revealed.

The Tories also registered many more donations, shares, salaries, gifts and tickets to sporting events from fossil fuel companies, petrostates, aviation companies and climate sceptics, according to declarations made in the parliamentary record of MPs’ interests between 2008 and 2019."


Do your homework boro boy.
What and scour the left wing press on who accepts free (declared) tickets as that is sure to help someone understand climate change... Leave it out! :wave:
As opposed to the benevolent and enlightening right wing press? Do your homework or stop posting otherwise we'll keep showing you up.
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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by Chadwick » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:05 am
But we don't say that fibre optical cable is the end of the line, this is as good as it gets; we realise that technology can improve and supersede the knowledge we have today. However, despite changes to past predictions climate changers don't accept that they might be saying something completely different again in ten years time and adamantly lecture that it is the end of the world now even though a tilting globe probably has more effect on climate change than any so called carbon effect. Result for me is to deal with things we can change and lets just clean up the earth and stop sitting on top of aircraft.
To continue working with the fibre analogy, no we don't claim it is the end of the line, but yes, we do encourage people to switch over to the current best option rather than wait and see of something better emerges in 10 years time.

You appear to be arguing that until we know for definite what causes rapid climate change, we should not act on the knowledge we do have.
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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by Boro Boy » Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:00 am

Chadwick wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm
Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:05 am
But we don't say that fibre optical cable is the end of the line, this is as good as it gets; we realise that technology can improve and supersede the knowledge we have today. However, despite changes to past predictions climate changers don't accept that they might be saying something completely different again in ten years time and adamantly lecture that it is the end of the world now even though a tilting globe probably has more effect on climate change than any so called carbon effect. Result for me is to deal with things we can change and lets just clean up the earth and stop sitting on top of aircraft.
To continue working with the fibre analogy, no we don't claim it is the end of the line, but yes, we do encourage people to switch over to the current best option rather than wait and see of something better emerges in 10 years time.

You appear to be arguing that until we know for definite what causes rapid climate change, we should not act on the knowledge we do have.
Continuing the use of your optical fibre analogy. If fibre was that good everyone would be scrambling to get it on day one when it was first announced if it was available to them. But they don't scrambling for it because many do not see the benefit of it out balancing the cost! Now this doesn't make them wrong and in the fibre analogy world they can take their fibre junk mail and put it in the rubbish and not have it stuffed down their throats by people who love to tell other people what to do and thinking they are doing this from a position of some authority when of course they are not they are merely workers for a big company.

Also how will fibre optics stop the tilt of the earth? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: London Mayor too close a friend of extinction rebellion to do his job?

Post by pabenny » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:40 am

Boro Boy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:05 am
... lets just clean up the earth ...
pabenny wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:37 pm
So you have no suggestions of your own for policies that you would support to combat pollution.
And you seem to be opposed to anything that is 'stick-like' - ie imposing charges or restrictions on those who pollute.
Still not willing to offer specific policies to clean up the earth that you would support?
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