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As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by Boro Boy » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:08 am

The French Government want to VETO the take over and future survival of British Steel... As if we needed another reason to leave the EU the French Government involvement in our own affairs is enough for Steel Workers to accept that the sensible way ahead is only a quick clean BREXIT https://steelguru.com/steel/french-gove ... eel/553185 :thumbup:

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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by Sarah » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:54 am

DId you read the article that you linked? It's about France Rail, a profitable UK owned subsidiary of British Steel that they understandably have concerns about being sold off to China's Jingye. It appears to have nothing to do with EU membership and Brexit unless you consider why they're going to be buying steel from Ascoval in France instead of Scunthorpe or you simply welcome it becoming more difficult and more costly for UK businesses to invest and trade with the rest of the world. If anything, seems like the facts would support stopping Brexit to help British Steel survive.

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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by pabenny » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:54 am

Ms Sarah is quite right. The article is nothing to do with Brexit, nothing to do with UK steel production. So come on, Mr Boro Boy, for once, admit that you're wrong.
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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by parchedpeas » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:31 am

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...Saw Boro Boy's name attached.
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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by Boro Boy » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:29 am

Sarah wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:54 am
DId you read the article that you linked? It's about France Rail, a profitable UK owned subsidiary of British Steel that they understandably have concerns about being sold off to China's Jingye. It appears to have nothing to do with EU membership and Brexit unless you consider why they're going to be buying steel from Ascoval in France instead of Scunthorpe or you simply welcome it becoming more difficult and more costly for UK businesses to invest and trade with the rest of the world. If anything, seems like the facts would support stopping Brexit to help British Steel survive.
Your logic is flawed: The French Government should have no control over the sale of British Steel than the British Government have over Renault's car production in France...

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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by Sarah » Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:49 am

Your miscomprehension just reads like knee-jerk zealotry to be brutally honest. It's an article about France Rail operating in France; the French government are obviously entitled to express concerns. Would you be happy for the British government to have no say regarding British Steel operations in the UK after ownership transfers to China's Jingye?
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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by Boro Boy » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:49 am

Sarah wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:49 am
Your miscomprehension just reads like knee-jerk zealotry to be brutally honest. It's an article about France Rail operating in France; the French government are obviously entitled to express concerns. Would you be happy for the British government to have no say regarding British Steel operations in the UK after ownership transfers to China's Jingye?
Thank you for trying to cloud and twist the issue. The French Government can have as much say as they want about British Steel, my argument is that should not extend to a Veto over its purchase in the UK, that is the prerogative of an elected British Government and shows another reason we would be better off outside the EU.

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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by pabenny » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:48 am

The article says - in summary - that the French government may block the sale by British Steel of a French company that it owns to a Chinese buyer. The issue seems to be about the buyer of the company, not the owner. I would imagine the French government would seek to do that whether the UK is in the EU or not - and indeed whether the owner was British, German, American.

(edited to correct typo)
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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by macliam » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:09 pm

Boro Boy wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:08 am
The French Government want to VETO the take over and future survival of British Steel... As if we needed another reason to leave the EU the French Government involvement in our own affairs is enough for Steel Workers to accept that the sensible way ahead is only a quick clean BREXIT https://steelguru.com/steel/french-gove ... eel/553185 :thumbup:
As usual, the linked article dos not support anything said by the OP. The comment is a kneejerk reaction to an article that does not even mention the EU - or Brexit - and which, by extension, is not actually affected by either of them..... except in the imagination of a desperate europhobe who presumably hopes either that nobody actually reads the linked article, or has the reading skills of a 4-year old, or cannot actually comprehend the meaning of the words used.

The French government (not the EU) has raised National Security concerns about the proposed sale of British Steel to a Chinese company, because a wholly-owned subsidiary supplies the French railway. It says it wants guarantees but does not suggest HOW they would seek to "scupper" any deal should such guarantees not be forthcoming. The French spokesman is speaking in their capacity as an interested party in an international venture...... nothing to do with the EU and the threat seems little different to Trump claiming he'll stop information sharing if the British government chooses Huawei as a supplier to the 5G network (except the French aren't threatening UK security)..... so where's the EU connection?

This has been pointed out to the OP, but, of course, everyone else is wrong because the words only say what the OP wants them to say. Welcome to Alice in Brexitland.
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Re: As if we needed another reason for a quick clean Brexit...

Post by pabenny » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:20 pm

Come on, Mr Boro Boy, admit that you misread the article and that your OP was wrong.
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