kevinchess1 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22 2020 8:02pm
macliam wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22 2020 10:39am
What you're saying is, ignore the figures we know.... because there
MIGHT be a big number we don't know and we'll count this unknown number on the positive side. So, to extend this, you are saying that should ignore the fact that 99% of people who take strychnine die, because, as far as we know, most people don't take strychnine. Therefore strychnine isn't dangerous....
He's not saying that at all
Say 1,000 get it and 30 die that's 3% except it isn't because a lot more people will get it and not die but won't be recorded in the figures
2 further points: How many of the people who died were actually killed by the virus? It's difficult to say. As I posted earlier if you die in a pub fire you could argue it was because you had a drink problem
And my 2nd point is strychnine isn't dangerous if you don't take it
Sorry kev, I disagree. You sound like Murphy, who named his sons Pat, Mick and Wang Po because every third child born is Chinese.
You can't play with numbers you don't know - you can take them into account, you can caveat any answer, but you can't use them. The fact is that around 12% of those proven to have COVID-19 are dying of it - and for government figures to play true, the "hidden" incidence of COVID-19 would have to be 100 times higher than that registered so far. As to your second point, you daughter will be able to tell you how lightly (not) medics take the registered cause of death - and if COVID-19 is even a contributory factor, it is a cause.
As for your last point.... if what you say is true, then why is it a controlled substance? why aren't guns available to all, because "guns don't kill, people do"? It's like saying that you have to have a licence to drive and than claiming that nobody without a license drives..
I'm not claiming armageddon, but neither am I giving deniers any wiggle room - we need to stop this virus, because there is no vaccine, no cure and no treatment - this isn't the flu.