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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by macliam » Wed Apr 08 2020 10:01am

blythburgh wrote:
Wed Apr 08 2020 7:43am
Dominic Raab denies calling for NHS privatisation, despite being confronted by his actual words

https://www.indy100.com/article/dominic ... Kp5fUyKo0I
For someone with such a short time in the limelight, Raab has made more than his fair share of "mis-speaks".
https://www.indy100.com/article/dominic ... us-9452561
This is the man who, when asked whether COVID-19 should see the UKs transition period extended, replied that the pandemic strengthens the case for a speedy Brexit.

Mr Raab has even been caricatured by the Daily Telegraph as “a baseball bat in a suit.” He once described feminists as “obnoxious bigots.”, he blasted British workers for being “among the worst idlers in the world” in a book he co-wrote in 2012 and, three years ago, he said “the typical user of a food bank isn’t someone that’s languishing in poverty; it’s someone who has a cash flow problem.”

The disguise doesn't quite cover his lizard skin.......
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by kevinchess1 » Wed Apr 08 2020 10:45am

Staff at St Thomas' have reported Boris Johnson is looking bloated, sweaty, generally dishevelled and talking incoherently. A Spokesperson said :(

I'm so glad he's getting back to his old self :?
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by kevinchess1 » Wed Apr 08 2020 10:47am

Does anyone know how the Brexit negotiations are going?

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Sarah » Wed Apr 08 2020 11:09am

If that's a genuine question, the government are apparently claiming that draft trade texts have been exchanged over the last week or so. They need to be thinking about how they're going to sell the inevitable delays to the ideologues and can't leave it until last minute (or use the term "extension" but another phrase will be found) this time.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by kevinchess1 » Wed Apr 08 2020 11:47am

My opinion would be that there’s nothing wrong with a ‘Delay ‘ under the current circumstances, If you can postpone the Olympics then anything else is excusable
And No it wasn’t a genuine question.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by blythburgh » Thu Apr 09 2020 6:55am

They need to bite the bullet and say there will have to be an extension to end of year date. I am not saying they should cancel just have an extension.

But the bustards who were so scared that the public might just vote to stay will make sure they get their way and we have a the worst possible outcome and we end up with a no deal. That way the bustards and their friends can make money at the expense of the ordinary person who pays their full taxes and have no way to offset large amounts of their earnings.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by kevinchess1 » Thu Apr 09 2020 2:18pm

Here’s a Q for you deep thinkers and/or macliam. If you take a payment holiday on your CC, will it affect 0% interest deal?’
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by BeautifulSunshine » Thu Apr 09 2020 2:46pm

Sarah wrote:
Wed Apr 08 2020 11:09am
If that's a genuine question, the government are apparently claiming that draft trade texts have been exchanged over the last week or so. They need to be thinking about how they're going to sell the inevitable delays to the ideologues and can't leave it until last minute (or use the term "extension" but another phrase will be found) this time.
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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by expressman33 » Thu Apr 09 2020 3:34pm

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/italy/

April 3 (GMT)
Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000.

If these estimates were true, the mortality rate from COVID-19 would be much lower (around 25 times less) than the case fatality rate based solely on laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths, since it would be underestimating cases (the denominator) by a factor of about 1/100 and deaths by a factor of 1/4.

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Re: Coronavirus/COVID-19

Post by Richard Frost » Thu Apr 09 2020 4:28pm

expressman33 wrote:
Thu Apr 09 2020 3:34pm
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/italy/

April 3 (GMT)
Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000.

If these estimates were true, the mortality rate from COVID-19 would be much lower (around 25 times less) than the case fatality rate based solely on laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths, since it would be underestimating cases (the denominator) by a factor of about 1/100 and deaths by a factor of 1/4.
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