If the Brexiteers had the guts to have a people's vote. But they knew that they might lose it because of those who realised they had been lied to, the pensioners who had died, those who realised the consequences of their leave vote, those who only voted leave to give the Govt a kicking because they knew remain would win. But when did those in the current Govt. ever care about real democracy?
The aim of a conman is not just to trick the mark, but to leave them unaware that they have been tricked. The best make the mark part of the scam.Sarah wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19 2020 10:19amThe first vote was an utter fraud; their beloved Brexit will never be legitimate or beneficial.
That so many people can learn nothing from the intervening years is quite symptomatic of how easily and completely they were misled.
I think many on the remain side are close to reaching this stage:
I understand your criticism of the term, however I would remind you that, after the car-crash of the referendum, people were either triumphant in their "victory" or suggesting that a way should be found to reach a compromise with the EU to limit the damage or that the "undisputed" benefits of "sovereignty" would more than blance any costs of leaving.Chadwick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18 2020 9:09amOh yes, I agree. I merely meant that it was so utterly obvious that this would be the outcome, that I am hesitant to call it a 'prediction'. It's not like you had to read tea leaves to divine an unsure future. It's more like predicting that a full glass of your favourite tipple will shortly be an empty glass. Anybody who applied a modicum of thought could see it wasn't going to work how the leave camp described.
tl;dr: I'm pedantically quibbling over the definition of 'prediction'. I have agreed with what you predicted all along.
No surprise.... a proven liar lies again.Chadwick wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21 2020 7:37pmRemember when Boris told us emphatically that the NHS was not for sale and was not on the table for negotiation in a trade deal.
He lied to us.
Yesterday the Tory party was whipped to vote in favour of making the NHS available for sale.
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