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Re: negative interest rates

Post by Sarah » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 pm

expressman33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm
1.15% at NS&I https://www.nsandi.com/income-bonds
The rate for this product is dropping to 0.01% from 24th November.

Also their Investment Account will drop to the same rate. Direct Saver (currently 1.00%) will drop to 0.15% effective from the same date. Premium Bonds prize fund will be dropping from 1.40% to 1.00% for the December draw.

https://nsandi-corporate.com/news-resea ... ember-2020
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:01 pm

Sarah wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 pm
expressman33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm
1.15% at NS&I https://www.nsandi.com/income-bonds
The rate for this product is dropping to 0.01% from 24th November.

Also their Investment Account will drop to the same rate. Direct Saver (currently 1.00%) will drop to 0.15% effective from the same date. Premium Bonds prize fund will be dropping from 1.40% to 1.00% for the December draw.

https://nsandi-corporate.com/news-resea ... ember-2020
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by Richard Frost » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:27 pm

AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:01 pm
Sarah wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 pm
expressman33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm
1.15% at NS&I https://www.nsandi.com/income-bonds
The rate for this product is dropping to 0.01% from 24th November.

Also their Investment Account will drop to the same rate. Direct Saver (currently 1.00%) will drop to 0.15% effective from the same date. Premium Bonds prize fund will be dropping from 1.40% to 1.00% for the December draw.

https://nsandi-corporate.com/news-resea ... ember-2020
How the mighty have fallen.
Thunderbog you do spout some rubbish at times, it just means that NS&I have reached the target that was set for them and as they say in the release, normalise and align the rates with savings in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... nvestments
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by planteria » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:21 pm

normalising.. but 1% is not appealing for an average return from PBs.
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by pabenny » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:21 am

1% mean return is very unattractive on premium bonds.
The big money 'prizes' skew the mean return and most holders earn considerably less than 1%. The more meaningful average is the median return.
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by AAAlphaThunder » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:28 am

Sarah wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 pm
expressman33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:08 pm
1.15% at NS&I https://www.nsandi.com/income-bonds
The rate for this product is dropping to 0.01% from 24th November.

Also their Investment Account will drop to the same rate. Direct Saver (currently 1.00%) will drop to 0.15% effective from the same date. Premium Bonds prize fund will be dropping from 1.40% to 1.00% for the December draw.

https://nsandi-corporate.com/news-resea ... ember-2020
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https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/savin ... -interest/
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by pabenny » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am

pabenny wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 10:53 am
planteria wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:59 am
so..
i'd be prepared to bet that Gold is higher priced, in pounds, a year from now than it is today?
You're on.

The price quoted on gold.co.uk is around GBP1400. I bet you one imutual share that it's less than that on 1 June 2021.
A couple of weeks late, the half-time position is today's gold price is GBP1381.
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by planteria » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:01 pm

and you don't think it will be higher in June of next year?
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by pabenny » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:44 am

No. Same reasons I gave in May/June last year: gold has been at a historic high. With some reduction in weakness of GBP, the only way for gold is down.
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Re: negative interest rates

Post by planteria » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:55 pm

i think gold will move up - but for me it's only really a secondary hedge behind bitcoin.

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