Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by Sarah » Thu Dec 17 2020 2:38pm

John Deadwood clearly fears a deal being imminent, so calls for the talks to end... :roll:
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Post by Sarah » Mon Dec 21 2020 11:08am

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by Sarah » Thu Dec 24 2020 4:30pm

So, now a deal has been agreed. As expected, it remains hugely expensive and damaging for the UK compared to being an EU member, whilst having only a fraction of the benefits.
As a means to lower expectations and add drama, Johnson continued to perpetuate the “no-deal” hoax of his predecessor – that it was so plausible that he would pursue such a ruinous outcome is no credit to him. The notion that some of the world’s largest economies would go into meltdown over a few middle-aged men with outsized egos and puffed-up chests arguing about fish was always ludicrous. And embarrassing.

It is a sad indictment of our political and media class that so many played along. Brexit was always in part fuelled by the allure of destroying the present. The farce has been presented as a drama, when reversing more than 40 years of cooperation for peace and prosperity is truly a tragedy.

The Brexit deal itself is nothing but thin gruel.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ou-thought

The Express actually thinks these checklists are reasons to celebrate:

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by pabenny » Fri Dec 25 2020 5:14pm

But we've taken back control. So it's all worth it, whatever the cost.

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by BeautifulSunshine » Fri Dec 25 2020 10:04pm

Mostly looks like we agreed with the EU.
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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by Chadwick » Sun Dec 27 2020 10:40am

AAAlphaThunder wrote:
Fri Dec 25 2020 10:04pm
Mostly looks like we agreed with the EU.
That's pretty much it.

We sacrificed all the benefits and then negotiated our way back into a non-tariff trading agreement (added paperwork and customs formalities, but no duty to be paid) so long as we toe the line with EU standards. The great benefit of being a sovereign country country outside the EU is that we no longer have any say in what those standards are, and must just adhere to them. We're free to differ, at which point tariffs kick in. Similarly, if we feel EU products have differed in their standards we can apply tariffs to imports, making them more expensive for us to buy.

Another great Brexit Bonus is that if we choose to apply tariffs to EU goods, making them more expensive in UK shops, then we can simply replace them with British versions. So if cars get tariffs, we can simply buy from a British car manufacturer. If we differ over agricultural standards we can simply start growing tomatoes and avocados here. Alternatively we can ship them in from other countries and deal with the tariffs (if there are any) and the new customs paperwork. Whereas EU member states are lumbered with the additional option of sourcing them from elsewhere in Europe with no change in customs requirements or tariffs.

The fishing industry is vitally important to Britain, as demonstrated by us selling off most of our rights to foreign fleets. I think Boris is to be congratulated here, as he has raised this relatively minor issue to the forefront and managed to use it to hide all the other concessions and losses he has had to agree to. It is a victory that our share of the cod catch will shift from 43% to 57% over the next 5 years. I'm absolutely certain that is the kind of decisive change that every leave voter knew they were voting for in 2016.

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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by parchedpeas » Sun Dec 27 2020 12:03pm

It's a pathetic trade-deal that entirely matches all the problems that were identified by those who supported remaining. It's actually *worse* than the one Theresa May negotiated.

That Brexit supporters are calling it a success says all you need to know. They never really knew what they were voting for, whatever they say.
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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by Sarah » Sun Dec 27 2020 1:36pm

It's great if you enjoy paying more for less and making do with anything substandard that comes wrapped in a union flag. You have to lower your expectations all the way to "No Deal" to be thankful for something that's not as bad as the worst possible outcome.
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Re: Impact of no-deal Brexit on grocery prices

Post by Chadwick » Sun Dec 27 2020 6:02pm

Sarah wrote:
Sun Dec 27 2020 1:36pm
It's great if you enjoy paying more for less and making do with anything substandard that comes wrapped in a union flag. You have to lower your expectations all the way to "No Deal" to be thankful for something that's not as bad as the worst possible outcome.
All of which was perfectly possible without leaving the EU. We've not gained any additional opportunities. We've just shut some off. And we'll spend the next decade trying to rebuild the relationship we had with other European countries and the commercial relationship we had with the rest of the world due to us being in the EU. It's all an absolute waste of time, in the vain hope we will become a global super power by ourselves.

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