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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by macliam » Sun Dec 19 2021 7:45pm

What we will hear is the new mantra of the right "isn't it about time we started looking at the tings that concern us today, not looking back on a few beers and crisps a year ago"

Presumably therefore, all those who thought similarly will be refunded any penalties paid for their actions at the time...... and we can all understand that rules are not rules, just like not going to work is going to work, etc., etc.
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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Chadwick » Sun Dec 19 2021 8:28pm

macliam wrote:
Sun Dec 19 2021 7:45pm
What we will hear is the new mantra of the right "isn't it about time we started looking at the tings that concern us today, not looking back on a few beers and crisps a year ago"
Already started.
In his interview with Sky news a couple of days ago, he blamed the loss of the North Shropshire by-election on journalists reporting the wrong news and the public focussing on politics, instead of the matters that directly affect our daily lives. Basically, we should stop scrutinising our leaders and holding them to account.

https://youtu.be/VqdygN_FpKk
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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Chadwick » Sun Dec 19 2021 8:38pm

To the absolute surprise of no one, a new picture has emerged of Boris at the gathering in May, when such gatherings were not allowed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-may-2020

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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Sarah » Sun Dec 19 2021 10:26pm

That's the same article I linked upthread. ;)

By now perhaps the only thing that would shock the nation more is a photo of them actually following the rules!

Ed Balls thinks the photo was taken from the 11 Downing Street first floor balcony. The Mirror has commented:
The event took place on the same day as the then Health Secretary Matt Hancock told a COVID-19 press conference: “You can meet one other person from outside your household in an outdoor, public place. But please keep two metres apart. This weekend, with the good weather... don’t take risks.”
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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by macliam » Mon Dec 20 2021 11:34am

If taken from the balcony of No11, perhaps we should be asking who took it and why it has been released..... after all, it's unlikely to be a Labour supporter, eh? :eh:

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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Chadwick » Wed Jan 12 2022 12:47pm

Boris has just admitted that he DID attend the May 20th party, thinking that the invitation to enjoy the sunshine and bring a bottle was a work event. Which was also against the rules his own ministers announced earlier that very same day.

Either he's too stupid to tell the difference between a work and a social do, or to realise either contravened the rules; or he knowingly broke the rules, lied about going, then lied to cover it up and is still lying even as he apologises.

Either way, he's not suitable to be PM. If we can't believe what he says or trust his judgment, then he's lost our confidence and should resign.

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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by macliam » Wed Jan 12 2022 1:09pm

Did it really take this to convince anyone that he is not (and never was) a suitable person to be considered as a PM? :roll:

What is really, really sad are those desperate Tories who sound more and more like the members of some brainwashed sect as they repeat the mantra "We need to concentrate on overcoming the effects of the pandemic" when asked about the now proven scenario where Johnson has (yet again) been caught lying.

Given that he also has a history of betraying those who are close to him, will they still support him when he cedes the Isle of Wight to Washington for use as an offshore prison or after Carrie cripples Cummings with a baseball bat? Is there anything that will remove the scale from their eyes?
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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Richard Frost » Wed Jan 12 2022 1:35pm

Like the anti vaxers, there are many who live in their own bubble who have very fixed opinions and are unable to see further than the bridge of the glasses upon their noses. Life has ever been such and will continue to be so.

The same could perhaps be said of me. I have always voted Labour apart from one shameful election where I voted Liberal Democrat, many moons ago. But then again despite the differences within the Labour Party. I think it is a kinder party and genuinely has a better feeling for the people than the Conservatives, who in my opinion (apart from a handful) are largely in politics for their own selfish purposes.

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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by macliam » Wed Jan 12 2022 7:56pm

Richard Frost wrote:
Wed Jan 12 2022 1:35pm
Like the anti vaxers, there are many who live in their own bubble who have very fixed opinions and are unable to see further than the bridge of the glasses upon their noses. Life has ever been such and will continue to be so.

The same could perhaps be said of me. I have always voted Labour apart from one shameful election where I voted Liberal Democrat, many moons ago. But then again despite the differences within the Labour Party. I think it is a kinder party and genuinely has a better feeling for the people than the Conservatives, who in my opinion (apart from a handful) are largely in politics for their own selfish purposes.
Agreed. Unfortunately the "One Nation" Tories, who kept the right-wing in check have now all but disappeared. Now, I agree with your characterization - nothing that a Tory politician does can surprise me (although the fact they seem to get away with it does). Like you, I have always voted Labour, even if it has been between gritted teeth at times. I count myself a Socialist, but I view those further left as a problem to be engaged and not necessarily easy bedfellows - so, had the term not been abused by others, I would count myself a pragmatic Socialist, who doesn't let perfection get in the way of good. Were this not a FPTP system, I might well have loaned my support elsewhere.... but none of the major parties have deserved it in the current situation.

I find it genuinely depressing to see that we are in a situation where the rights and benefits of the common man are being removed or restricted, where the new generation are unlikely to do betterr than their parents and where the move to a better future seems stalled at best. Worse, I cannot see how others seem blind to this, or accepting of it. Unlike the majority of voters, it seems, I have known characters like Johnson all my working life - and have learned to despise them, but not to underestimate the power that their sense of privilege and arrogance lends them. How others can't see through their BS is beyond me.
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Re: This governments shenanigans

Post by Sarah » Thu Jan 13 2022 6:56pm

The Times’s handy cut out ‘n keep guide to the PM’s "apology"

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https://twitter.com/arusbridger/status/ ... 72960?s=20
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