In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

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In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

Post by blythburgh » Sun Sep 08 2019 9:46am

I wish they had stayed and fought for their old party in many ways.

The takeover of both Labour and Conservative parties by extreme wings of each one is a tragedy for the whole country.

So I cannot welcome the new MP's and some new members without feeling sad they felt they had no other choice.
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Re: In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

Post by Richard Frost » Sun Sep 08 2019 10:27am

I see it as a realignment for the good. In my view the parties are showing their true colours. But it will not last. These things have a habit of going round in circles.

There will be a completely new intake of MPs at the next election some of those who crossed the floor will lose their seats and the Lib Dems will win some more seats as well. I will be surprised if there is not a handful or more of Brexit Party MPs. The face of politics is about to change much further.

What I find strange are those members of the electorate whom you hear on the TV saying I have always voted Labour but could never vote for Corbyn so I will vote Conservative or Brexit Party. Out of the frying Pan into the fire. One extreme to another. Wierd!!

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Post by kevinchess1 » Sun Sep 08 2019 11:55am

Every single GE since I can remember, the media find someone who says ‘I’ve always voted for the same party all my life. I will never vote for them again.’
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Re: In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

Post by im183152 » Sun Sep 08 2019 12:32pm

blythburgh wrote:
Sun Sep 08 2019 9:46am
I wish they had stayed and fought for their old party in many ways.

The takeover of both Labour and Conservative parties by extreme wings of each one is a tragedy for the whole country.

So I cannot welcome the new MP's and some new members without feeling sad they felt they had no other choice.
People have to be honest with themselves.

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Post by Chadwick » Sun Sep 08 2019 6:42pm

I think some of them are leaving because they feel they cannot change their old party, and any attempt to do so will result in them being sacked. For example, Boris has removed the whip from all 20 odd of the Tory MPs who voted against the government last week, even though this absolutely destroys his former slight majority.

The people changing sides probably feel they can make more impact by doing so on their own terms.

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Re: In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

Post by Richard Frost » Sun Sep 08 2019 9:29pm

Chadwick wrote:
Sun Sep 08 2019 6:42pm
I think some of them are leaving because they feel they cannot change their old party, and any attempt to do so will result in them being sacked. For example, Boris has removed the whip from all 20 odd of the Tory MPs who voted against the government last week, even though this absolutely destroys his former slight majority.

The people changing sides probably feel they can make more impact by doing so on their own terms.
I am sure you are right.
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Post by blythburgh » Mon Sep 09 2019 10:31am

I just find it so sad and extremely worrying for the country that the two main parties are no longer the broad churches they once were.
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Re: In some ways I do not welcome the new LibDem MP's

Post by BeautifulSunshine » Mon Sep 09 2019 11:49am

Things change. Some is perceived as positive and some is perceived as negative.
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