IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by William Joseph1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:58 pm

expressman33 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:33 pm
William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:12 pm
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:00 pm
It will line the lawyers pockets
What a silly one liner.
She hasn't asked for the legal aid , it was her lawyers decision to ask for it on her behalf
incorrect! It was her family who have instructed lawyers on her behalf.
Her family has previously said it planned to challenge the decision.
But whatever the argument unless you are able to prove anything to the contrary. She has not got the money to pay for representation so is entitled to it.

The principle of whether the legal aid system works/is expensive/is or is not up to the job, is not in discussion here. Whether she is entitled to it/or not is.
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by macliam » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:47 pm

William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm
kevinchess1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:15 pm
Oops
Typo WJ
William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:49 pm
...It will be a drop in the ocean in monetary value, compared to the obscene amount of money that is being spent on Brexit.
I'll correct it
William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:49 pm
...It will be a drop in the ocean in monetary value, compared to the obscene amount of money that is being spent on AVOIDING Brexit.
What I wrote was inclusive and was meant to be satisfying to both sides of the debate.
How DARE you try to be inclusive - out means out!!!!! That's the trouble with you namby-pamby, roll-up vape-smoking lefties - you keep looking for a solution to please everyone and those who voted Brexit don't care - they won, suck it up and take the pain because the flying pigs and unicorns are there waiting..... Don't you know, this will be the easiest deal in history because the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU and the UK holds all the cards. But don't worry, when it all goes pear-shaped we'll just blame someone else for not giving us the Brexit we voted for!!
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by William Joseph1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:55 pm

macliam wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:47 pm
William Joseph1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:52 pm
kevinchess1 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:15 pm
Oops
Typo WJ
I'll correct it
What I wrote was inclusive and was meant to be satisfying to both sides of the debate.
How DARE you try to be inclusive - out means out!!!!! That's the trouble with you namby-pamby, roll-up vape-smoking lefties - you keep looking for a solution to please everyone and those who voted Brexit don't care - they won, suck it up and take the pain because the flying pigs and unicorns are there waiting..... Don't you know, this will be the easiest deal in history because the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU and the UK holds all the cards. But don't worry, when it all goes pear-shaped we'll just blame someone else for not giving us the Brexit we voted for!!
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by blythburgh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:26 am

What I cannot understand is why we think we can dump our dirty washing onto other countries by removing citzenship.
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by macliam » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:45 am

blythburgh wrote:
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What I cannot understand is why we think we can dump our dirty washing onto other countries by removing citzenship.

Exactly! ..... and excuse the failure to deal with problems in the UK by trying to make one person individually responsible for all the crimes of daesh. I would accept that she bears joint responsibility, but that would mean she should get the same treatment as others and I can't help wondering where all the calls were to punish individual Serbs for the horrors carried out in Bosnia.
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by blythburgh » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:48 am

I heard on Radio 4 that Social Services and her school were aware that she was being groomed by Daish but nobody told her parents. Surely they should have been informed.

It was a friend of the family who made the claim but it was just his claim. On the other hand he is a retired Police Superintendent.
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by expressman33 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:55 am

i don't know if it's true but seen on social media that she is secretly being flown into the UK
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by blythburgh » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:36 am

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i don't know if it's true but seen on social media that she is secretly being flown into the UK
Doubt if it is true as she is in Daesh controlled area. Why would we risk our people's lives to get her out.
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Re: IS Teenager Shaminna Begum to lose British Citizenship

Post by William Joseph1 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:43 am

blythburgh wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:36 am
expressman33 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:55 am
i don't know if it's true but seen on social media that she is secretly being flown into the UK
Doubt if it is true as she is in Daesh controlled area. Why would we risk our people's lives to get her out.
Is she? Last I heard she was in a camp controlled by the Kurds. But whatever its pointless speculating on what or what might not happen. Crazy situation where the UK stripped her of citizenship anyway. Doing that to anyone solves no problems but in fact creates more problems.
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